tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post7557444134824341634..comments2024-03-10T00:44:49.280-05:00Comments on This & That: The Shi'ite Story....and who is that Mahdi guy anyway?Susannehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-13122977198141900252010-09-17T19:20:02.314-05:002010-09-17T19:20:02.314-05:00Faith, I'm glad you came back to clarify your ...Faith, I'm glad you came back to clarify your position. Since your comment double posted, I removed one of them. :) <br /><br />Hmmm, I don't think Aslan was suggesting the Shi'ties of today were guilty of Hussain's death. He only mentioned the Kufans of that time who abandoned him, but were penitent. I don't want you to think I - or he - was condemning people today. :-) Thank you for further explaining your beliefs about the Mahdi because I found that very very interesting! Feel free to read the other posts I've written from this book. You may especially enjoy the one about the rightly-guided ones since it's likely written more from your perspective than a Sunni one. Please keep in mind the author is Iranian and except for my own commentary, I am just recording notes from his book. I'd love to read if you agree, disagree or have more to add from what I shared on each post. I enjoy learning from others and you are most welcome to teach me about your faith, Faith. :)<br /><br />Thank you for dropping by on your break from studying. I really appreciate it!Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-28252786047714287412010-09-17T19:03:32.776-05:002010-09-17T19:03:32.776-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Faithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273583798566188398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-11813514685733243042010-09-17T19:03:27.667-05:002010-09-17T19:03:27.667-05:00Sussane
I’m so sorry I wasn’t clear, I wrote that...Sussane <br />I’m so sorry I wasn’t clear, I wrote that while thinking and doing dozens of other stuff ;D<br />My point was that for many years I’ve heard that accusation “The Shi'ite” killed Hussain and they cry out of guilt” we’ve been accused of being those Kufa’s people who abandoned Hussain then changed their minds! <br />The fact that we have mourning rituals every year doesn’t mean we do them exactly the same, where I live we never cut our heads open and do what you read, this is not part of our belief it’s just an extreme expression that was created in some parts of the world due to some geographical and social mix. What we do believe in that Mahidi “PBUH” is the 11th grandson of the prophet “PBUH”. Sunna also believe in him, the difference is they think he’s not born yet we believe while he’s been there for over the last thousand years. What matters is when he shows up, all Muslims and even many other sects from other religions are going to support him and fight with him. <br />The split started when Ali “PBUH” the prophet’s cousin and his daughter’s husband, was denied being the “kahlifa” or the man who was going to replace the prophet. The ones who chose Ali were us. The ones who didn’t were sunna, Ali’s two children were the second and third imams, and the remaining 9 imams came from Hussian’s offspring. I was one of the biggest anti Shiitsim one day ;D even when I grew up in a Shi'ite house. Knowing Imam Ali and reading about him was the reason I reverted back. This reminds me of those days when I didn’t understand that unbelievable love I saw in Shi'ite’s eyes when ever his name is mentioned. Now I’m one of those who tear up just thinking of this man. But again.. that’s another story ;)<br />Sorry if that was too long or too short I’m on a few minutes break before I go back to studying. <br />I admire your curiosity and depth Sussane. Will make sure to come read your older posts they seem really interesting.Faithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273583798566188398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-11590102715252049882010-09-17T14:48:10.088-05:002010-09-17T14:48:10.088-05:00Suroor, thank you for what you added. Lots more in...Suroor, thank you for what you added. Lots more interesting facts to this story - wow! <br /><br /><br />I appreciate learning from ALL of you! Thanks for taking time to share your thoughts. :)Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-16648398518414768392010-09-17T14:46:10.113-05:002010-09-17T14:46:10.113-05:00Sarah, oh thank you for adding that detail! I appr...Sarah, oh thank you for adding that detail! I appreciate learning from you!Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-84266027995067063592010-09-17T14:45:32.841-05:002010-09-17T14:45:32.841-05:00Faith,welcome and thanks for your feedback though ...Faith,welcome and thanks for your feedback though it leaves me puzzled. I suspected Reza Alsan WAS Shi'ite and I was merely writing notes based on what he shared. Sure I added some of my own commentary to this post and maybe this is what you object to? I didn't quite understand your accusations, but you are welcome to share YOUR side of the Shi'ite story! Please do. <br /><br />Thank you! :)Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-57891632998722754002010-09-17T04:50:45.000-05:002010-09-17T04:50:45.000-05:00Many Sunni Muslims completely reject the coming of...Many Sunni Muslims completely reject the coming of Mahdi who is supposed to come before the end of the world and lead all Muslims to prayer with Jesus praying behind him and accepting him as his superior. Some Muslims claim that the roots of such belief are Iranian and also blasphemous. <br /><br />Traditionally, Mahdi is supposed to be a descendant of the Prophet. Many people have claimed to be the Mahdi: Muhammad ibn Al Hanafiyah; <br />Muhammad Jaunpuri; Bab; Muhammad Ahmed; Mirza Ahmed; Al Qahtani <br />Rashad Khalifa etc. None was accepted by mainstream Muslims.<br /><br />Some of them also believed that they were the second coming of Jesus like Mirza Ahmed. He believed that Jesus escaped crucifixion, traveled to Kashmir and preached there where he died. Mirza Ahmed thought that Jesus' spirit and power had come into his body and so Jesus had come again.<br /><br />Aslan is a Shia Muslim so he does know a lot about the history of Shite Islam.Suroorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07151400258859526990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-52589789564513172772010-09-17T04:29:02.703-05:002010-09-17T04:29:02.703-05:00Susanne, I don't really know much about Shia ...Susanne, I don't really know much about Shia belief but I know a bit more about the ideas about a Mahdi.<br /><br />As far as I know the Mahdi is awaited by all Muslims, not just Shias. As an Ahmadi we believe that the Mahdi and the Messsiah appeared as one person about 120 years ago. Mainstream Muslims are still awaiting his advent.sarahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-3618762230822112402010-09-17T00:34:15.214-05:002010-09-17T00:34:15.214-05:00Hi Susanne :)
I wish I have the time to read some ...Hi Susanne :)<br />I wish I have the time to read some of your old posts and get to know you more but maybe later :)<br />May I ask you how do you think someone who hates Islam would write about some Islamic rules like let’s say allowing a man to marry four women, women are entitled for half of the share a man gets when splitting inherence. And many other rules that when fall in the wrong hands can be easily deformed and twisted? Trust me when I tell you this, the book is not telling the real story.. that’s not who the Shi'ite are and that’s not who I am. <br />There are two versions of this story. and I’m telling you here, I’m a Shi'ite and I don’t feel guilty for the Hussain’s martyrdom. But I heard worse accusations so I forgive you ;DFaithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10273583798566188398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-8753280728041647602010-09-16T19:50:48.357-05:002010-09-16T19:50:48.357-05:00Lat, apparently Blogger thought your comment so go...Lat, apparently Blogger thought your comment so good, it posted it four times! :-D I deleted three of them. <br /><br />Yes, I'm glad you consider them brothers and sisters in faith despite the differences. I am not surprised. :)Susannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03115294023069458287noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-740924465958245224.post-6166876098722083802010-09-16T19:36:33.573-05:002010-09-16T19:36:33.573-05:00Sorry Susanne for the multiple comment entrees in ...Sorry Susanne for the multiple comment entrees in the previous post.I didn't know what happen.<br /><br />Thanks for sharing the Shia concept here.I may not agree to some of them but I still think they are brothers and sisters in faith.Latnoreply@blogger.com